Talk:Red Lizard

Question: are red lizards only unafraid of vultures or are they fearless to things like pole plants.
 * Creature relationships haven't been studied in-depth yet and will be dealt with later, but as a quick preview here is what it should look like for red lizards:
 * Default: Ignores (0)
 * Eats: Centipedes (0.8), Scavenger (0.8), Eggbug (0.45), Big/Spitter Spider (0.35), Lantern Mouse (0.3), Baby Noodlefly (0.3), Noodlefly (0.25), Dropwig (0.2), Hazer (0.15), Jetfish (0.1), Squidcadas (0.05), Grapple Worm (0.025)
 * Afraid: Leviathan (1), Red Centipede (0.9), Daddy/Brother Long Legs (0.2), Pole Plant (0.2), Monster Kelp (0.2)
 * AgressiveRival: Lizards (0.1)
 * Attacks: Red Lizard (1), Miros Bird (0.4), Vulture (0.4), King Vulture (0.2)
 * SocialDependent: Slugcat (0.5)
 * (The numbers in parentheses determine the intensity of the relationships. All of this is taken from the default relationship code and might change in more concrete situations, hence the need to gather more information before putting everything into the pages)
 * Candlesign (talk) 21:55, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

RE: Citation Needed Tag Edit Reversion
Hi. I'm a normal user of the wiki, not staff. Nothing I say should be understood as authoritative, but does reflect my understanding of roughly how we do work here, and why I reverted your edit. If staff specifically offer different perspectives, or corrections, or refinements on what I'm about to say - they're the authority, and I'm the incorrect one. If other people offer differing perspectives and I'm talking as a minority, likewise. I'm a new editor as well. And I've had stuff I contributed removed, too.

With that said, welcome to the Rain World Wiki! The Citation Needed tag used by Wikipedia isn't part of the way our wiki works at present. You'll note that if you search for it, it's nowhere to be found. In general, it's not part of our wiki's style. Rather, incorrect information is removed and new information added based largely on a circle of trust in the community, with the understanding that there will be ruthless verification from other editors, with incorrect information removed the moment it is noticed, without further discussion in most cases. The good news is this: if you've got cause to believe that information is incorrect, you can remove it directly, on your own recognizance. If that's too direct, you can also start a talk page topic, or reach out on discord. But in general, we don't have a highly-cited (in the sense of explicit references) page structure here. This is in part because that structure is somewhat meaningless given the specialist knowledge needed to conduct verification of some specific claims. Some of what we document inherently requires an ability to read source code to verify. The people here have done pretty incredibly work to try to avert that requirement whenever possible, but this is a case where it seems to be unavoidable.

Moving on to the claim you've highlighted for verification - I have code open in front of me that I'm fairly sure is what you'd like a citation to, and translating the why of the one in ten million fail chance to english would violate our style guide, because concision RE this is a bit of a futile endeavour, and isn't properly part of the RL article besides (if anywhere, it should be on the article for Lizards as a whole). Things need to be concise, but the conditional logic involved, to be understood, must be explained fullly - which would take a lot of english to unpack due to how terse the symbolic language of code is.

If you're interested in seeing the code yourself - open Assembly-CSharp.dll in dnSpy, and check the Lizard class's bite method and the Red Lizard's definition in Lizard Breed Params class. It's all there, and I hope it's satisfying, with goodwill. --Caeda (talk) 12:49, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * (For a quick explanation of the code, the bite is lethal if a random value (from 0 to 1) is strictly inferior to the lizard's bite damage chance (which for red lizards is 1). Now if you look at Unity documentation about Random.value, you can read this: "Any given float value between 0.0 and 1.0, including both 0.0 and 1.0, will appear on average approximately once every ten million random samples."
 * So there is approximately a 1/10,000,000 chance that the random value returns 1, which is not inferior to the bite damage chance and therefore does not cause the bite to kill.
 * Except now having Remix enabled changes this and makes the chance actually 100%)
 * -- Candlesign (talk) 20:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Candlesign. That's a far better way to write it than any of the attempts I eventually cut from the above thing. --Caeda (talk) 07:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

substances
were the rain world developers high when they designed this thing? It has no right to be this powerful.